By Dry_Status6073 ⢠Score: 1 ⢠April 15, 2025 7:03 AM
Ok this is a super long one, but bare with me ācause I really do want to know and grow from it if Iāve messed up massively. F44 here, so I was joking around with my very close and good friend M31. (We do occasionally hook up which I didnāt know if I needed to add that but it might make things make more sense, with how close we are, and why I think it hit me the way it did) I was washing up some plates and he said something about his kids usually washing up so I called him āDaddyā thinking it was a stupid joke. We kinda try and outdo each other with bad taste humour so I thought it was hilarious. He however went kinda serious and said, āNo, just no, only one person calls me that.ā I was then super confused, one.. by the sudden seriousness, and two.. as he has 3 kids, but only one from a previous marriage so thinking that might be who calls him Daddy, I said that childās name. All while trying to work out how things went from joking to serious so quick. He was like āNo, itās... calls me thatā and said his partnerās name. Iām like super, open-minded but for some reason that revelation shook me, I think it was mostly just I didnāt expect it from him and she hashtags everything with āfeministā and heās told me theyāve had proper fights regarding male influencers like Tate so I think I just wasnāt expecting to hear that... And totally, each to their own but when it was first said I was visibly shook and it was as we were about to part ways so I messaged him about it. He said ok to the messages, even hearted one, said thanks for explaining but said he didnāt want to discuss it so I stopped. Everything seemed normal between us until the afternoon 3 days later he texted angry about it all, and Iām so confused. I really thought I was just explaining my feelings to him so he understood my initial reaction. I apologised for upsetting him and he just got more angry so I ended up apologising for what Iād said even though I really donāt feel I did anything wrong. He continued to just be so angry at me for it despite me trying everything I could to calm him. He has now blocked me on socials, itās a pain in the butt as we are part of the same friend/work group, but really just want to know AITA? Will paste in the text thread.. Itās long as get really confused, and try to explain myself, even though he tells me things are āclearā and āobviousā.
Me: Sorry, went to respond to our conversation before ācause itās stuck in my head and I feel like need to explain myself... Him: Ok Me: think itās more not just being called Daddy, or someone even wanting to call someone else that, but in this case itās you responding to being called Daddy in a sexual situation that icks me. Wasnāt really ready for that, and just with my own background, both professionally and personally, and it was so far from my image of you, that I think it just did trigger something in me, that I wasnāt in any way ready for, or even aware would be triggered. Him: Ok. Me: Mind blowing as well that someone in one breath can have a thing against against people listening to Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan to the point of proper arguing about it, but then be ok with sucking āDaddyāsā cock. Not much blows my mind but that is proper nuts Him: Wow, a lot of judgement coming from this conversation. Me: Itās not judgement. Thereās a billion words you can use but Daddy and Mummy are core relationships with a really solid definition. For me there is no ok way of moving those words into a sexual space... and I am no prude. Just donāt get why a guy would want to be seen as the parent of the person heās fucking. ...and donāt see why chick would want to be fucking her parents...hence why I thought it was hilarious to joke about...... and in no way ever thought youād say what you did. Was not ever in my head Him: I understand you have your thoughts and feelings on this topic but itās not a topic I want to discuss any further. Ok? Me: ? That you donāt want to discuss it? Itās proper fucked my brain, like I think itās actually really made me angry, i donāt even know what it is Iām feeling... fucking reality flip Him: So let me get this straight, because I donāt want to discuss that topic with you, you are now angry? Me: No not because you donāt want to discuss it... as soon as you said it, it just hit my emotions, and Iām not really sure what I felt, but think itās hurt and angry. Which you arenāt responsible for, itās my emotion. But yeah...Iām feeling it Him: Ok, thanks for explaining that to me
Then for 3 days, totally normal interactions between us. Until this..
Him: So read through the messages you sent, Iām really not sure what else to write anymore. I guess I do have one question well maybe itās 2 questions.
Me: Yeah
Him: (some screenshots of above] Why was those messages ok for you to send and the ones just prior to it?
Me: Why was it ok for me to send them? I donāt understand why it wouldnāt be ok
Him: So those messages and the messages just prior to them you feel is perfectly OK to send?
Me: I thought so. I stopped when you asked me to
Him: 0k, obviously I feel very differently when some speaks pretty poorly about my partner and something thatās personal and has nothing to do with anyone else then. Good to know.
Me: I was telling you how felt about it, it honestly shocked me, still does, like rereading that just made me feel so much all over again. Iām not a person who gets triggered usually I think shits funny, and thatās what I was doing in making the original joke. Thought it was so funny cause it was so wrong. Then you said what you did. Itās like a white hot pain in my chest. The whole concept is just so not ok with me. I find it incredibly upsetting/unsettling... Itās not something I can in anyway get my head around ever being ok with Iām aware itās a thing but I never ever thought you would go there. Canāt help feeling that way, but I can explain to you that I do and a fair bit of why I do.
My own reaction isnāt something Iāve just been ok with either, I donāt want any thing or any one to have the ability to make me feel this way. Iāve been analysing it from every angle, reading a fuck tonne, and trying to understand why it hurt and move forward with my head in a better space with it. But it isnāt as easy as Iād like it to be and had probably brought up more for me to deal with. I Asked you questions cause I really donāt understand how you are ok with it, but you just said you didnāt want to talk about it.
Him: And you still donāt see what it is you did, do you?
Me: I donāt, no
Him: The fact that I clearly outlined it and you still donāt even think you have done anything wrong and still justified your actions to me says everything I need to know.
Me: What do you need to know? Iām so confused.
Maybe Iām not getting it because I know that when wrote it it wasnāt with meanness or malice it was attempting to understand something. It was voicing my confusion and what I was feeling
Him: So you can say hurtful things about someone but because of how you feel about its ok? Really?
Me: I donāt get how itās hurtful to talk about it, if you are ok with doing it. I find it hurtful.. You donāt... Thatās my whole issue.
Actually I donāt know if hurtful is the right word... Iām confused by it
Him: And yet you still havenāt acknowledged what you said and how you said it or how I obviously felt about.
You know what forget it. Just forget it. This whole conversation has achieved nothing.
Me: You keep saying obviously but I really still donāt understand why youāre pissed at me. But you can be. Whatever. I know how feel about you and know I donāt want to hurt you so Iāll shut up
Him: Then maybe you should think about it then.
Me: I have thought about it until my head and heart turned inside out so then ive actually been trying not to think about it
Him: Yep no worries.
Me: And this is why I said wanted time to actually talk with you. āCause I think you just got angry with me and Iām really still not getting what Iāve done.
Then it just goes on with me trying to understand and him keeping on telling me itās clear, he personally attacks me a few times and I justify that as being ok ācause heās angry. I saw him a day or so later in the workplace and he was super angry and not talking to any one so I thought the responsible thing to do was to go talk to him. He yelled at me until I apologised just to try and calm him down. Anyway, none of it helped and now heās blocked me. Donāt know if i did mess up or he is fucking with my head? AITA? P.S. donāt need a lesson on big/little role play, I get itās a thing and why, just wasnāt expecting it.
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