By Gotta_Stardew_emAll ⢠Score: 2 ⢠April 23, 2025 4:17 AM
This could just be a case of ESH, but I (35f) have known this guy for a few years now (35m) and things are just getting weird. (Itās kind of a long explanation, but Iāll try to be brief)
{TL:DR~ guy acts interested, wants to get together, I hesitantly agree, he treats me like an afterthought, I call him out and his ego gets bruised. He tells me to stop making him feel bad for his actions and that Iām self centered bc I did that, can I ghost him?}
In the beginning there was a lot of flirtation, on both sides, we talked seriously (briefly) about the possibility of becoming more but he wanted kids and I donāt, and I also live several hours away. The kids thing is a dealbreaker for me. So we settled on being friends. It was pretty good, lots of laughs, memes, texts, some facetimes, a few periods of life-induced silence. The typical ebb and flow of an interstate friendship. A lot of leaning on each other during times of family difficulties, general stress, the feeling of missing out on lifetime milestones, etc. A lot of shared pet pics š.
This past autumn we had a period of silence that lasted through the holidays. I think he was dating someone, I know he was at least talking to someone bc she will be his date to a wedding in a few weeksā time, but about mid-way through March he reached out and started chatting with me again. He broached the subject about a long distance relationship, again, said he still felt the same way as before, and that heās okay to move on past the kids thing because he just wants to be happy and that Iāve always made him feel happy and content and like he couldnāt not know me in life. I reiterated not wanting to be in a relationship where I would end up being the source of resentment (because letās be honest, thereās no actual compromise in the kids/no kids debate) and he reassured me that that would not happen. Something has been whispering in the back of my head to not give in fully to this idea of being together though, and my gut was right.
Since agreeing to explore a deeper relationship, I have noticed a definite change in his communication. Like heās taken for granted that he has me so he doesnāt need to continue treating me the same way. As mentioned, I donāt live close, so I rely on the back and forth we have to keep each other updated about whatās happening day-to-day, just general stuff that makes up a conversation. So I pointed it out a few weeks ago that it would be nice to continue getting little chit chat updates about what going on. I mean weāre talking hours long convos throughout the day to a day and a halfās silence with a quickness. He said he would do better. Great. Except nothing changed, he was still just as silent. I mentioned it a second time and tried to bridge a convo about seeing each other over break. He then told me that he wasnāt going to put more effort into messaging me because he felt that he was already doing enough. We didnāt see each other for the break because he didnāt have any time to take, but then also drove a handful of hours away to hang out with a friend ālast minuteā and didnāt mention it at all until the night before bc he wasnāt sure he was feeling well enough to go (apparently it was planned for him to stay overnight as well bc he got an Airbnb, which ultimately was the decision maker that he would go). So I realized that if Iām asking for something I know heās capable of providing and heās just choosing not to do it, and Iām already pouring from a mostly empty cup, Iām not wringing myself dry just for his comfort. So I pulled back on trying to foster communication, I responded cordially with the same manner of speech he gives to me. I matched energy. He didnāt like it. He asked me what was wrong, I said nothing, Iām just giving what Iām getting, that I canāt keep up the entertainment act and it sucks having one-sided convos. He then told me that his life is boring, that he has nothing going on, and heās āactively trying not to elaborateā (apparently he failed to see the oxymoron in that, he also was working overtime during the break but I wasnāt sure what hours he was working because he never mentioned it) and that I already know his schedule. I told him I only knew his schedule if he was under the impression I could tell through osmosis and that heās trying to make me the bad guy for holding true to expecting someone that claims they want to be with me to at least demonstrate it. I reiterated nothing was wrong I was simply treating him the way he was treating me. He apologized the next day and said he would do better, I explained to him why I was feeling frustrated and why I felt it was so important to continue talking to each other about our days and mundane stuff because we arenāt in the same space sharing the same daily events. His response was to tell me he āfeels like heās done a lot of apologizing to everyone (sic else) over the last few years and that heās tired, which has nothing to do with me, but thatās where his head is at when something happens with someone he cares aboutā¦that heās a completely transparent personā¦but he just doesnāt understand the expectation, if he had things his way we would spend every day togetherā and then he brought up a conversation we had more than 2 years ago that made me upset enough with something he said that I hung up on him (I do not remember this conversation ,this is important) and that āif this is a bad idea he wants to spare us bothā. I pointed out that if heās still upset about something I can neither dispute or affirm what happened, yet heās holding it against me and brings up to throw in my face whenever he gets upset, maybe thatās a good indication (of how things should go). He did not like that. He also said he only brings it up when he does because itās always on his mind. And heās just really hurt by it.
So I point out that heās had plenty of time to bring it up before, so waiting until a time when I donāt remember what happened to use it as something to hold over my head is not okay, but that I canāt do anything about it if I donāt know what Iām supposed to be āfixingā. And yelling at me about it wonāt solve anything either, especially when it only gets brought up at certain times. That I am trying to talk to him about stuff that needs to get figured out to move forward. He responds to that with saying he just doesnāt want another person in his life to be disappointed with him. I tell him heās frustrating occasionally, but talking about things we need to talk about doesnāt make me disappointed.
But wait! Thereās more, dear reader, thereās more šš. This man. I donāt hear from him for two days after that, and then he calls me. He calls me to rehash that whoooole conversation. In it I learn that not only did I have some kind of reason to hang up on him during that hurtful phone call heās been upset about for years, but also that me asking for better communication from him in the way I should expect as a healthy functioning couple would, but that heās willing to do anything I ask of him (except that apparently), and then he tried to egg me on into getting a rise out of me by saying repeatedly that heās pissed me off, even though I was not pissed off. I was just, dejected by this whole debate. And then continued on that his communication with everyone else in his life over the years has improved (I should give him kudos for that, apparently, because he started therapy like a year ago even though he doesnāt like his female therapist), so I āshould stop making everything about me and acting like the world revolves around usā. I promptly told him I felt the conversation was over at that point, and he agreed and hung up.
Itās been four daysā radio silence. I texted him a bit ago (bc I think he was expecting me to apologize so he didnāt have to) to say that I was completely blown away by what he said to me and have nothing more to say beyond that. He said āthe feelingās mutualā.
Sounds good dude, sounds good šš¼. So, wibtah if I just blocked and ghosted him? (Also, thank you sm for reading the whole thing ššš )
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